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21/09/2009, 9:21 PM TimmyP Joined on 29/06/2009 Gloucester Posts 58 Re: New pilot... Hi Rolls and Chris. Yep me too! What a fantastic day for it, one of the best since I started. I'm doing circuits at the moment so I didn't get the spectacular views, only being at 1000ft. We did 8 take-offs and landings though, perfect weather for it with absolutely no wind. Cant wait til next week!    Report

21/09/2009, 9:26 PM CFrost Joined on 04/01/2009 EGLK Posts 157 Re: New pilot... Hey guys glad to hear you are all getting on fine. My flying has really slowed down at the moment, hopefully be flying again soon though. Keep me posted :) Chris    Report

21/09/2009, 10:00 PM boofle Joined on 23/08/2009 North Yorkshire Posts 39 Re: New pilot... Hi All,            I also flew this weekend, saturday afternoon. Had a good lesson this time round, weather was ok, a bit hazy with slight cross wind but nothing to worry about. I also had the same instructor as I had on the last lesson. The lesson started with usual checks around the aircraft and pre-flight checks, I am starting to get to know where everything is lol. My instructor got me to do the radio again, still nerve racking trying to remember what to say, but I think I managed it ok. I started to taxi to the holding point using my feet this time, and not trying to use the control stick as a steering wheel. We took off and climbed to 1500 ft and leveled off, this was when my instructor said " you have control"  and the object of this lesson is to fly straight and level, flying to a fixed point, and also flying to the DI at a constant altitude. I found that I could do this ok with slight adjustments to the thottle, elevator and aileron and also preventing yaw with the rudder. I also found that trimming the aircraft took a lot of work out of the controls. After I had flown to various compass heading and fixed points, we climbed higher to 3500ft. This I found a bit more difficult, because I could no longer see the horizon clearly, due to the haze, I found myself relying on VSI and altimeter for my level flight, until my instructor covered them up with his map lol. I had a great lesson, didn't want it to end. But cannot wait until my next lesson, which will be part 2 of straight and level flight, I also have to remember the term F.R.E.D.A . I hope I haven't gone on to much, and hope you all had good lessons also. All the best. Steve         Report

22/09/2009, 9:19 AM Rolls Joined on 24/06/2009 Posts 42 Re: New pilot... I always foret what FREDA means too... I start out by going, Fuel, Radio, Engine T's and C's..... Direction.... um... A's are ok too.... Glad a few people managed to share the weather over the weekend, as it was beautiful. Looking at the sky now, and just wnat to be back up there...!    Report

22/09/2009, 6:22 PM Aviator|Chris Joined on 28/01/2009 EGBW Posts 378 Re: New pilot... Boofle - This is what I enjoy most about the Pilot forum. You really can just offload all your joys and woes for people to read and help you / themselves. I see now that different people struggle with different parts - for instance, one person will find something a breeze while another will find it tough going. I felt my last lesson really was pulling the major parts together and it felt more like a flight than just a lesson. At 6 hours I feel more confident at the controls and after a brief spell of giggles, on the radio as well. Flying a nice smooth takeoff, approach and landing made for a very rewarding lesson.    Report

22/09/2009, 9:59 PM boofle Joined on 23/08/2009 North Yorkshire Posts 39 Re: New pilot... I agree with you Chris, I also enjoy reading about our fellow budding pilots. It helps us immensely in dealing with our lessons, and the positive feed back we all get. I for one take it on board on what others experience in their lessons and the joy we all share in flying. I just wish that it wasn't so damn pricey, because I would be flying every day lol. Only 3 hrs in so still a bit green, I find there is so much to learn, it takes me back to when I was learning to drive. And thought at the time, I carn't do this. But over a period of time, it all just clicked into place. I hope this will also apply in getting my ppl. I find Chris, that theATC talk very quick, and I have to turn to my instructor to relay back what was said. It can be very nerve wracking at times. keep up the good work. Steve    Report

23/09/2009, 6:38 AM Aviator|Chris Joined on 28/01/2009 EGBW Posts 378 Re: New pilot... Indeed! Both the tower and my instructor speak very quickly at times, probably just due to them doing it all the time and they want to spend least time on the radio while passing their message (the overall goal). I do find myself asking my instructor twice, and I know next time that I want my volume on my headset turned up to a comfortable high volume so that I can grab everything.    Report

23/09/2009, 3:33 PM CFrost Joined on 04/01/2009 EGLK Posts 157 Re: New pilot... Hi Guys, I found myself asking my instructor every time about what they said and what I should say back as I was so nervous about making a mistake on the radio. I still even do it now and im at about 30 hours. But ive found myself talking just as quickly and as confidently as them, as it did just click one day! So just look out for that day when it does suddenly seem so simple because as it’s a great feeling, however if your like me don’t beat yourself up if that day doesn’t come straight away. :p Chris    Report

23/09/2009, 8:15 PM TimmyP Joined on 29/06/2009 Gloucester Posts 58 Re: New pilot... I'm ok with radio in and around the circuit...well apart from Gloucester have a habit of giving the most complicated take-off clearances in the world! Had a bit of a problem last week with the taxi clearance, but that was because they sent us to holding point B2...and every other time it's been to A1, A2 or E1...I didn't even know there was a B1. I find that calling final is hard too, just because there's so much else to concentrate on. I'm sure it'll get easier in time though, there's still a long way to go. If you think that GA ATC talks fast, try going onto http://www.liveatc.net/topfeeds.php and listening to one of the feeds from JFK or Schiphol...that is really fast!    Report

23/09/2009, 11:51 PM Jude Joined on 09/07/2009 Cheltenham Posts 15 Re: New pilot... Hi Timmy Know all about complicated Glos take-off clearances..................last week was using r/way 04 and had to cross 22 and 27 then up A1 and mind the bump on the way, lol. Sounds like you're doing really well. Just done stalling and working on circuits. Would be much easier on a 1 r/way areodrome and knowing quite where to air for on the legs.   You started on the air law yet? Jude    Report

23/09/2009, 11:51 PM Jude Joined on 09/07/2009 Cheltenham Posts 15 Re: New pilot... meant where to aim for, lol    Report

24/09/2009, 2:00 PM TimmyP Joined on 29/06/2009 Gloucester Posts 58 Re: New pilot... I've read the air-law book, and going to buy the confuser soon so that I can do the questions, then I guess do the exam sometime fairly soon. 1 runway might be easier but would mean a lot more cancelled lessons for crosswinds! Recently I've been either on 22 right circuit or 04 left circuit...which is basically the same flown in the opposite direction! The approach to 04 is nice though, because you don't really go over anything other than grass and a rugby pitch so it's nice and smooth. The approach to 22 always seems to be very bumpy as you go over the industrial estate just before the boundary. In all my lessons I think I've only used 27 once!    Report

24/09/2009, 10:03 PM Aviator|Chris Joined on 28/01/2009 EGBW Posts 378 Re: New pilot... I work for a company that works within Severn Trent, they have offices on the edge of EGBJ near the big prop builders (is this company still there?). I visited there with my Dad on work experience for a meeting, and they had huge windows which looked out over the taxiway. I remember during a coffee break, I was sitting there naming all the different aircraft types that were coming past, even at the age of 12. Thats really when my eyes were opened to flying, seeing people take to the skies on a nice sunny afternoon. Its been a long time since I was back at Staverton, as I think their local offices closed. Hopefully one of my navigational flights will take me south as I love Gloucs.    Report

25/09/2009, 9:31 AM TimmyP Joined on 29/06/2009 Gloucester Posts 58 Re: New pilot... By 'big prop builders' you probably mean Dowty, who are still there. They make the props for Herc's. which are often outside on pallets waiting to be loaded. I remember seeing a lot of props around there when the C130J was being intoduced with 6-bladed props (I think). They also make landing gear for lockheed and airbus (although not the A380 from what I remember). I think they are making the undercarraige for the JSF programme though. Dowty's a part of Smiths Aerospace (based in Cheltenham) now I think. Severn Trent are still there, or at least they were 3 years ago, as I had to go the their offices for a design-team meeting on one of my projects. Glos is a lovely airfield in my (biased!) opinion. The scenery's great and 3 hard runways means it's very resiliant to the wind conditions too. Plus the grub in The Aviator pub ain't too bad either, and it's right next to the 27 threshold so you can sit outside and watch the commercials and bizjets take off.    Report

25/01/2010, 7:23 PM WingCdr Joined on 16/07/2009 Southend - EGMC Posts 5 Re: New pilot... This thread seems to have gone a bit quiet.... ...too much snow?! Anyway - since my last post, I now have gained my PPL and have bought a share in a PA28-140. Just doing my conversion flights now. Taking my daughters up on their first flights was both massively rewarding - seeing their enthusiasm and exciting - and also awe inspiring with the amount of responsibility you suddenly realise you have. Anyway, hope everyone's training is going well.    Report

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